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All is quiet on the suburban education front....for now.
The Sunday Comics Patch by Illustrator Charley Krebs.
7:35 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Well, if we want to continue the analogy, we should start hauling out the guillotines for the principals.
7:40 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
There are many suburbs that are threatening to strike because of impasse.
10:41 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Yes, read a paper every once in awhile. Zion had a strike, Deerfield almost had one, and Highland Park is not far behind. Unions are being squeezed everywhere. To say this is a city problem is plain stupid.
7:42 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Walt, how could you poison Brock like that?
7:55 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
I'm in the empire business.
8:01 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Did you ever try the Los Pollos Hermanos breakfast chicken Chalupa combo meal? You know before .....boom?
8:02 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Enjoy your meal.
12:20 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
And what about Lake Forest High Scool? After LF elementary teachers got very fair raises in their new contract, the high school teachers are prepared to strike on Wednesday if no agreement is reached. And Walter is correct that Highland Park teachers are working without a contract, and a mediator is involved in current negotiations. There is a bargaining date set for the 12th, and more information will be available after that date.
12:47 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
These cartoons are about as accurate as they are funny.
7:30 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
at least he keeps the two in balance.
4:47 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Thanks for commenting everyone. For the moment, the concept is true, with the qualifier in the sub-headline "...for now". Always good to see Mr. White!
9:50 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Mark Stein I have a question for you. What happened to the impasse process in the CPS negotiations? Don't both sides have to publish their offers before the 10 day notice? Or maybe thy did and I missed it.
10:35 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
It will be interesting to see what they passed up, especially in this economy where people are just struggling to find work.
10:37 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
The process for Chicago is different. Under that process, the parties were required to submit the dispute to a "fact Finder." Ed Benn, a well respected arbitrator was selected for that role.
After Mr. Benn issued his report, the parties had a certain period in which to accept or reject it. Both parties chose to reject it. After that, the report was made public, but the statute doesn't call for the IELRB to post it.
You can probably find it on line.
10:45 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
The mayor and his hand-picked board have some work to do. This doesn't look like a teachers group that will cave any time soon. He won't be able to spin his way out of this one.
7:21 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
They passed up 16% raises over the next 4 years. It was actually bigger if you add in the compounding affect.
7:32 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
Just saw the picture of the striking teachers on Drudge.
Are they protesting for more money or are they against Rahm's new healthcare program where if you don't participate, you pay a fine.
The group of teachers in the picture can stand to do a little running around on the playground, no?
7:56 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
Replace them all, along with that $&!?!&@ Union Pres. If they don't perform they don't deserve their job. Obviously, there are a lot of factors, parents support and involvement is huge...but dumbing down the testing and classrooms to get better results is not the answer. The Avg Chicago teacher makes $71,000 per year almost 2wc the median income...really? Get your ass to work and do a good job, they same way the rest of do.
9:34 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
Rob, i heard they make 76K...BEFORE benefits are factored in.
16%, on avg., would bring them up over 85K.
the avg. FAMILY's income in Chicago is just 47K.
Why do they deserve so much money? is it because they are so effective at teaching kids? What do the results tell us?
9:22 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
Champion News | CTU President Karen Lewis Only Interested in Money, Not How Students Learn - http://www.championnews.net/2012/09/10/ctu-president-karen-lewis-only-interested-in-money-not-how-students-learn/
With video and the teacher union chants.
3:36 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Really Lennie? A right wing website? Yes, I'm sure it's considered all the facts and has reported honestly. Lennie, you would really be much more credible if you used sources that were credible. Just my opinion.
3:43 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Videos can be edited. Just ask Hannity or Beck or just about anyone on Fox.
11:00 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
@Sully - actually, it was the left wing that was caught editing the videos - remember the 9/11 call for the shooting in Florida?
5:41 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Rational- Fox has been caught numerous times editing. As has Breitbart's wannabe (can't remember his name at the moment). Utube videos can be easily edited to make them say what the poster wants them to say. I'm not saying lefties don't do it too, but that doesn't excuse righties, or anyone, from misleading through videos.
7:24 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
LOL. It's always funny to see the blatant attempt to tell people not read a news source. It appears you don't want people finding out the truth. You should read from all sides of the spectrum to learn the truth. It's the only way to find out the truth.
8:50 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Again with the LOL, Lennie? You can't come up with something a little more adult-like? I don't mind reading the other side; I just prefer it be truthful. I can't say that about your links. Post something factual from a credible source.
9:09 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
I am just waiting for the adults to show up to have an honest discussion instead of the petty bickering and personal attacks.
9:26 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
"About Lennie Jarratt......Founder of Lake County Tea Party"
That's pretty much all you need to know.
9:36 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
you're right, Walter. It tells us that this is a guy who can think on his own and doesn't need mainstream media or union reps to tell him what to think.
9:42 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
Is that so? Search "tea party rally" on YouTube sometime and get back to me. It will keep you laughing for hours. Well, maybe not you, but someone of average intelligence.
10:06 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
ok Walter. done.
let's see... i saw thousands of people speaking about the need for smaller gov't., and also read that when they left the area they were at, they cleaned up after themselves.
They did not punch any cops or get arrested for blocking any streets.
Is that what keeps you laughing for hours? Maybe you overestimate your level of intelligence?
You want to see something to get you laughing (or crying if you care about the kids and their education)? Watch some footage of the CTU protesting today. What will be especially interesting is when you see random teachers getting interviewed and asked questions that they haven't been given talking points from which to answer the interviewers.
I'd like to see somebody interview some teachers and ask:
"how many members are there in Congress, as a whole"?
"how many House of Representative members are selected from each voting district"?
"Who is the vice-president of the USA right now"?
"How many terms did Barack Obama serve as United States Senator"?
"If you get caught sexting a 15 year old student and get put on suspension, how many months do you get your full salary for sitting at home before you have to start teaching again"?
My guess is that most teachers would answer the last question correctly, every time, but that the rest of the questions would get answered correctly maybe 60% of the time.
10:13 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
Your guess? Why would we care about "your guess"? That's just flat out rude and insulting to a very hard working profession. But, hey, at least now we know where you're coming from.
10:33 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
@Walter, glad to see you are so enlightened that you can be bothered with any opinion that doesn't agree with yours. Did you even read the article and see the videos?
Here is another group I helped found: http://forourchildrensfuture.com/ We now have over 20 school districts adopted where citizens have stepped up to help bring fiscal sustainability to their district to ensure ALL children have access to a quality education.
10:37 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
"insulting a hard working profession"
We're talking about Chicago Public School teachers, Walter. These people are greedy, incompetent and care a lot more about themselves than they do their students.
Yes, i want to see a reporter ask basic questions of some teachers to show how many stupid teachers we have in CPS. The same way that they were asking teachers up in Madison last year when they were going bananas about Scott Walker.
Union teachers= failing students.
10:40 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
Well I don't see many failing students in the suburbs so this must be an "urban" problem, right Dan?
10:43 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
In Niles Dist 219 (Skokie) which is a suburb, only 63.20% meet or exceed standards, which means almost 37% are failing. This is in spite of the district spending $35K per student. http://iirc.niu.edu/District.aspx?districtid=05016219017
3:42 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Oh yes Dan. I bet every single Illinois, why, not just Illinois but every state's teachers, do nothing in their classrooms but read porno and text each other. And of course, take two-hour lunch breaks and are in the bathroom every five minutes fixing their hair and makeup (the male teachers are obviously not doing that- they're watching or reading about sports no doubt).
10:12 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
I wish I had all of the answers Dan, I am NOT anti Teacher, I do have 3 in my family and I volunteer about 20 hours a week to coaching kids in my local area.
I can say that my oldest sister taught for 30 years, traveled every summer, always had time to coach and make extra money, she ended up in Admin, retired and has a fantastic pension at the ripe old age of 56. She now collects her pension, works 2 part time teaching jobs and is pulling well over $100,000 a year and Refs for several different sports!
She is a fantastic teacher, who is involved in and out of the classroom. She takes interest in her kids and their families. Principles need to be able to hire and fire teachers, not only based on their performance but their ability to relate and teach the students in that particular school. Most teachers over 60 just cant relate to students 18 and under and should be at the college level or retire. The rest should be treated like every other employee, do the job better than the next guy or lose your job to the next guy.
The Unions are out of control, they dont care about the workers, business's or economy. They worry about lining their pockets with as many dues as they can collect. Been there done that...I do believe there should be a teachers union, run by employed or retired teachers, elected by teachers and paid a small salary for 1 term of 4 years.
Just my opinion...dont need to argue with anyone.
10:39 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
i agree with your sentiments Rob, especially when you say that "..principals need to be able to hire and FIRE teachers.."
tell that to the Chicago Teacher's Union. They don't want principals to be able to fire them for ANYTHING. They are union, after all.
3:49 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
I agree Rob. Everyone wants to associate teachers with union, but they are two separate entities for the most part. Most teachers I know don't pay any attention to their unions unless it's time to renew the contract, and even then, they don't get much say. Teachers around here have to join the union whether they want to or not, so stop blaming every single teacher for what happens in the unions. Teachers want to teach. They don't go into it for the politics.
The teachers are the victims of their own unions. It's a shame how union bosses treat the young teachers especially when it comes to the lack of and misinformation they give to the rank and file teachers. Preventing strikes would be a good step in combating this problem.
5:50 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Lennie, if not for the right to strike, employers could treat their employees any way they want. Make them work 12 hour or longer days with no overtime pay, not provide lunch breaks, have them work in unsafe conditions (such as coal miners), fire them without due cause, and any number of other conditions not fair to the worker. Is that what you want for your daughters? Working under any conditions that could be harmful? That's the problem when one is short-sighted. The benefits of what unions can do is overshadowed by the negatives presented in the press and by people like you. Make the teachers sound greedy and not hard working. That's one of the most disturbing fallacies in a history of American fallacies.
7:10 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Teachers are a profession that is needed by the community just like Police and Firemen. Police and Firemen do no have the right to strike here in IL. The teachers can be put under the same provisions. It's really that simple. Not sure how you would think a teacher who can't strike, they'll be forced to go into a coal mine to dig coal.
8:12 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Sully....nice comparison...teachers and coal miners. I have never been part of a union and never been subjected to any of the treatment you blather on about. Last I checked this was the 21st century. Prior to all the regulation that employers are subject to today, unions were a necessity to combat the things you mentioned. Today unions are only about power and money, just like politcal parties.
If you want to think CPS teachers would be subjected to the same maltreatment as coal miners 100 years ago without thier precious union, knock yourself out...but it just ain't so.
8:45 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
So you don't think a teacher can teach at age 60 or above? Are you aware that legislation was passed in Illinois two years ago requiring that newly hired teachers MUST work to the age of 67 to collect full pension benefits? Maybe you should inform the state legislature of this! Truly they are not aware!
9:37 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Jerry, I'm not referring to coal miners of 100 years ago. I'm talking about right now. With no regulations and no chance for refusing to work under dangerous conditions, miners are at the mercy of their employers. That's also what I was referring to in regard to teachers. I'm not comparing the two types of work. I really do need to be less figurative and more concrete around here, don't I?
10:34 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
Chicago Public School Faces Nearly Billion Dollar Deficit by 2014
With the blatant attempt to hold the children, parents and city hostage by their strike action, the CTU is guaranteeing another round of animosity toward teachers. This is unfortunate, because many of the young teachers are now victims of the union bosses like Karen Lewis. This strike will usher in massive teacher layoffs next year, increased class sizes and most likely higher taxes, leading more residents, businesses and jobs to leave the city. CTU President Karen Lewis may as well right the names of the teachers to be laid off into the contract.
8:39 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Yes Lennie....there is a huge deficit.....because of mismanagement by the former king Daley. Didn't pay his share of pension costs.....actually "borrowed" money for the fund when he first took over the schools.....NEVER repaid...... And now the money, by law is due. Oh, I forgot to balme the teachers for this as well, since they are the only ones who have supported their retirees' pensions though automatice deducutions for many years now. Thank goodness they have savvy investors and thier board of directors looking out for their interests as no one else really seems to care, do they?
11:33 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
When someone says is not about the money....its about the money.
4:28 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
But it's not just about the money in this case. The board did reneg on its four percent pay raise and has only given two percent, but thats not the main issue from what I've read. It seems that the teachers want 1) the board and Emanuel to stop trying to run the district as a business instead of an educational system. I agree with that. Learning is not a for-profit industry, 2) not use standardized tests to evaluate teachers. Again I agree. These tests were not developed to evaluate one's teaching. They were designed to evaluate where the student is at one point in time and where that same student is at a later point. How well the student is progressing. It is not adequate to measure a teachers performance based on the aggregate scores of all the students. The tests also measure how good the student is at taking this kind of test. An honor student can bomb a test if the conditions are right. Tests measure individual points in time, not how the student is actually learning in school. 3) CPT would prefer infrastructure funds and funds for services such as counseling, social work, and school psychology instead of the board's pet projects. They would also like funding for specialized training- if they must make mandated changes, then they should be trained in how to do so. And 4) they would like more adequate health care. So you can see, it's more than just the money.
7:44 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Why collective bargaining with public employee Unions is not healthy and will destroy America:
The big taxpayer rip-off has now been exposed: http://sweetness-light.com/archive/average-sf-pensions-are-higher-than-salaries
11:06 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
@Sully - Learning may not be "for profit", but it can't be run at a billion dollar annual loss either. There is only so much money.
5:09 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
So, in response to your observations: 1. The schools should not be run like a business and we should continue to throw good money at bad and continue to fund programs, projects and schools that don't work. That's about the money. 2. So we should not use some criteria to judge whether a teacher is effective, because if they are ineffective (and given test scores there are quite a few ineffective teachers) they get terminated, and that's about the money. 3. Clearly reallocating infrastructure funds is about the money. And 4, they want better health care presumably without having to pay for it, so it is about the money. Don't see where there are any real issues other than money.
8:07 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Salary is not the main issue. So sorry you didn't get that. There should be accountability, but not by standardized tests.
8:34 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
No, schools are not a business. Public schools cannot pick and choose the students they will accept. This is what private schools and charter schools do.
When someone figures out an objective way to measure teacher effectiveness, there may be room for discussion concerning the issue of merit pay. However, as of today, its been well documented that the same teacher can have widely differing results from year to year depending on the students who happen to be assigned to their class.
Salary often isn't the main issue. Bargaining for a new contract is often one of the only chances that teachers have to make Boards of Educations aware of the problems in their schools. Then the same people who bash teachers for supposedly being greedy write in about how educational issues shouldn't be brought up when the contract is bargained.
11:09 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
@Mark - maybe if we moved away from the democratic / liberal idea of "social promotion" and held the students to standards, you would be able to judge teachers better. If they held the students back WHEN THEY START FAILING vs. just passing them along to be the next teachers problem, we would have a start. We could start holding the parents accountable as well. It is difficult to blame an 8th grade teacher if the student is still reading at the 3rd grade level, but someone needs to look at those 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th grade teachers that just pushed the child ahead.
7:24 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Dan- Your comment that union teachers = failing student is really far from the mark. Several studies have shown that states where there are unions that bargain teacher contract have students with higher test scores. Here's the latest article: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/guest-bloggers/how-states-with-no-teacher-uni.html
8:42 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Greed at its finest moment: http://sweetness-light.com/archive/chicago-teachers-strike-despite-16-raise
9:29 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Yes the teachers union is ridiculously out of control, but I don't believe a union teacher = failing students, I had a lot of very good teachers in a very bad school district - Rockford. I do believe every school is unique and the principal should have the ability to hire and fire as needed to build his team.
The principal is the CEO of the school and should be held to the standards needed for the community.
A teacher elected board of peers for disciplinary and contract negotiations. Single 4 year term with compensation equaling 25% of their current pay or pension.
Enough of the so called Teachers Union that ONLY cares about their dues. Most teachers don't agree with the politics of the union and just want to teach. The entire system needs to be overhauled and the lazy teachers will be weeded out by competent accountable principals.
8:55 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
One of the reasons why teachers do not want principals to choose thier teachers is because of graft, kickbacks, and favoratism. This is why it was changed years ago and we should not go back to this system.
10:26 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Which teacher's union are you talking about? Every local union elects its own officials and makes its own decisions. That goes for Chicago, Rockford or pretty much any school district that you can name.
Each local selects its own bargaining team. That group decides what to take to the bargaining table.
That teachers don't support their unions is a bunch of nonsense. The law allows them to petition for an election if they want to change representatives or have no union. There are some elections to change unions, but guess what; there are almost no elections to have no union. The idea that teachers don't support their unions is a myth.
8:56 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Mark, my disagreement with that is that some school districts require their teachers to be in the union whether they want to be or not. I also think there are teachers who disagree with a union's stance, but do not feel safe in expressing that view. However, I do believe unions are necessary. I wish they were held more accountable sometimes.
10:54 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Coercive collective bargaining in the public sector sets up clear conflicts of interest. Fellow tax consumers must never be allowed to bargain with themselves. Tax producers should demand the end of public collective bargaining.
12:20 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Since when are school boards tax consumers? School Board members aren't paid and no North Shore district doesn't have school board members managing their negotiations. They also have lawyers present. More untruths from those that have no idea of what they're talking about or how bargaining really works.
Most school boards have no problem with handing huge amounts of money to administrators and consultants. When it comes to the people in the central office the mantra is that they have to stay competitive.That's how we get $250,000 Superintendents and $350,000 Business managers. We also get $200,000 consulting contracts for public relations people.
When it comes to compensating those in the classrooms, all of a sudden teachers are greedy and should be expected to take a vow of poverty.
School districts always claim poverty when their teacher contract expires. After that, if you pay attention, we then hear about how they're in good shape due to the brilliance of the administration. Amazing how that works.
5:21 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Someone said on here that it isn't about the money. Well maybe that huge raise that the school board offered should be taken off the table then! There are so many of us that are unemployed, underemployed, haven't had a raise, or forced to take a cut in pay. Which comes full circle in that people are fleeing Illinois because it is too expensive to live here.
9:02 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
No jobs? Well since teachers are so well compensated and you need a high-paying job....go SUB! If you do, I am sure you would not choose a city school where you might need to fight for your life just to get to the door! These nay-sayers need to be the fly on the wall in an urban school setting. I am sure they would applaud the teachers as heros. A friend of mine has a son who is a beginning teacher and was assigned to teach a 45 minute summer school class in Chicago. Afterwards, he went home, called his mom and cried. He said he was not going back. The kids did not listen nor respect him. 45 minutes was all it took.
5:57 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
So Lisa, since you and Lennie can't find jobs, those who do have good jobs should be penalized? Would you feel the same about Westlake teachers if tuition payments there increased substantially?
7:13 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
lol, you really do have to keep going personal in an attempt to keep others quiet to slow down debate. Those Alinsky tactics never die I see....
9:31 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Since I am frequently attacked for using "Ailinsky tactics", maybe I should read him. I never heard of him til I started posting on here.
8:20 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Lennie has a job
6:35 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
In case you didn't know it, and I think you do any private school would be a choice to attend or not and they work much much differently than public schools. Forced verses choice.
Unions always preach that everyone is against the teachers or it is about the teachers, yet in the same thread say that what the Unions do, isn't what the teacher's necessarily want. Which is it? Or maybe it is just about what ever serves your purpose...
7:06 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Yes Lisa, but private schools charge tuition. Do the teachers in private schools deserve adequate compensation? I believe they do. So if a school has to raise tuition in order to pay its teachers, would you complain as much? Yes, it's the family's choice to pay, but what if the family can no longer afford it? Do you blame the greedy teachers?
7:31 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
lol, first it was personal attacks, now strawmen arguments. How many of the 13 basic Alinksy rules have you used in just one article? rofl......
9:08 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
"but private schools charge tuition"
Public schools charge involuntary tuition whether or not you attend.
Private schools charge less tuition per capita.
9:28 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Guido, have you seen the tuition of some of the private North shore schools? As well as tuition, there are fees for text books, sports participation, and a number of smaller things.
7:52 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
You see a conspiracy everywhere you look Lennie. And again, really? Lol? Rofl? You 16? Every idea you don't agree with is an attack or straw man argument. Have you ever tried to see both sides of anything, Lennie?
8:04 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Hmmmm, now you are seeing conspiracy theories? Just continue on with the personal attacks. It's a shame though. There were a couple threads where we were actually having an honest discussion. Oh well, maybe next time.
9:26 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Where's the personal attack Lennie? I would question any adult who uses teenager's terms.
8:34 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Those who think teachers unions cause no harm to the children for whom public education was created need to watch Waiting for Superman. You can choose to be blindly pro-union (I used to be) or you can be informed and open your eyes. Your choice.
10:12 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Isn't there a third option? To be pro-union and not "blind" as you put it? The black and white mentality in this country is choking off our public discourse and I wish you would stop.
8:00 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Again, thanks everyone for participating in a dialog on this opinion page...alas, with some mid-week developments since sunday, my cartoon is a bit outdated at least in a few suburbs.
9:51 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
It now seems to me that the unions have in fact colluded and planned a systemic strike, starting in Chicago, then Lake Forrest, and then spreading around the state, expecting Obama to step in to quiet things down before the election.
Seems like they have turned on their candidate and are using threats and voting leverage ... if this is so, we the tax payers need to prepare for holding those accountable for the collusion to stop education for political purposes. That may be a Federal offense.
10:08 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
That's so ridiculous! Wow!You must also believe that Kennedy's murder was a conspiracy as well. You truly believe there is collusion? Sad that you actually spent a part of life dreaming this up....listen to Rush much?
7:15 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Here's the thing..Lake Forest High School teachers are on strike...it is reported and not denied that it is about salary and healthcare. CTU/CPS teachers are on strike not for the money...they agreed to the salary and refused the wellness plan for healthcare, but I believe the health package was resolved. Here are the true issues that are being bargained for and if I remember correctly, one of these areas was heavily fought for with Deerfield last year. CPS faculty have an average class size of 40+ students. Average some are much higher...social worker and nurses number is approximately 200 for the third largest school system in the country. That means with all the problems within the city of violence we have about 200 for 350,000 students to assist. Curriculum, teachers are lucky if they receive textbooks etc 6-8 weeks into the school year, and even then there are not enough for the class sizes. Evaluations, unfortunately this is something that falls under Reach for the Top and No Child Left Behind...so the only way to get that done fairly since there really is no eval system developed at this time is to bargain for standardized testing to be a lower % of it. First in testing, not all students do well, but can do well within the classroom, then you have special education students that don't care especially in the city, and you have a standardized test that is not based nationally. Think would you be ok with that if it was your review? 40% of you keeping the job. Hmmm
8:17 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Finally! Someone who "gets it"! Not only nurses, and most other support staff in short supply but psychologists in particular. Only 200 or so for the entire district. So many kids are special needs and by law each must be tested to determine which if any program he/she is to shuttles into for that year. Law also dictates that these student be re-evaluated within a short time frame. Each write up is pages long. Hours are taken taken for evaluations, staffings and often due process hearings. Even if each psychologist worked 24/7, 365 days a year there would never be enough time to catch up much less take on new cases. Each psychologist has thousands of kids as their individual case load. The board is rarely in compliance with the government on these issues....another dirty little secret.
7:17 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Oh...and average salary also includes extra curricular areas that teachers take on to earn more money...otherwise average salary is about $50,000. No teacher if they love children go into teaching for the money. I personally would rather have smaller class sizes, textbooks for my children when they start school, and anything else to give my kids the same chances as suburban kids, if I lived in the city.
7:54 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
26k for extracurriculars? You don't teach math, do you?
Since CPS has a staggering deficit, I would not anticipate getting smaller class sizes.
8:03 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Guido...you apparently don't understand the math...average means they take all the salaries add them up and divide it by the total number of staff members. So, yes, $50,000 is the average, and most do extras to earn more. That's where the 70k comes from because the extras are included in their salary. Plus you have to remember this is a k-12 district and high school teachers typically earn a higher salary. Every area for teachers is mostly in a staggering deficit...still doesn't mean you need or should attempt to teach 40+ students per class.
8:21 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
I understand the math perfectly. I took the 76k average, subtracted your purported number of 50k to arrive at an average extracurricular bump of 26k.
Your claim of 26k for extracurriculars is preposterous.
8:25 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
When you look at pay at the High School level, the numbers that people throw around often includes pay for coaching football and other major sports. Coaching at the High School level is a major committment of time and is considered to be separate from teaching work.
Many area schools hire coaches who don't even teach at the school.
8:20 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
All teachers in Chicago are on the same salary schedule.....unlike lmost districts,elementary and high school teachers earn the same....however, you are correct that high school teachers do have the ability to earn more by doing more as in coaching and club monitoring, etc.
8:26 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Bottom line here is that Rahm wants the schools to fail. His plans are to privitize as many as possible. Failing school=closed school=charter school. Then he is off the hook for pay, benefits, pensions, and all accountability as non-performance then becomes the charter's corporate problem. Clearly he is stacking the deck against the teachers forcing their hand for their own failure.....and the teachers know it.....THAT IS WHY THEY ARE STRIKE
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